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Combat Experience

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Within BotE major alien races have special building. Some raise the experience of starships and some raise the experience of troops.

It's rather an unfair system. Nothing replaces battlefield exerience. They are akin to military academies and so confer military learning and drilling. They can take place even in an Omega Alliance internment camp which is nothing like combat as that is dealing with political prisoners and dangerous insurgents who are there to be broken and interrogated.

The Khaoran have them too. I bet they all do.

Ideally in the next revision it would break this attribute into two areas of focus so it would partially help, but having nothing to do with actual combat. One way would be "discipline" as an attribute or even have "accuracy" involved with military training. Neither are the same as actual combat.

What you do, and this also unfair is place your troops or ships in the sector when the proper buildings are created, and experience accrues as long as they stay. See the problems?

It would be wise to rotate out trained troops and starship crews out yo get field experience and train new soldiers. Sure some stay put amd level off, but the former way puts trained people out invading nor exploring and facing combat.

The system ends up balancing out as early troops and starships become obsolete and have lower attributes so end up either being only useful for defense or die or are superfluous.
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Re: Combat Experience

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The combat experience for starship crews in a theoretical maximum of 99,999. I've had some starships sitting in a sector for a long time, and they have about 17,000 experience while another has 11,000. I haven't checked the troop values. I don't think there is any way the experience points will rise too high and reset as it flips over.

Just exploring renders some level of experience. I believe that number is 1000, thus scouts earn that much and I'm using frigates to do it now too as the far edges have yet to be explored as the far range is just cuts off so it theoretically will be about turn 700 for the NE and SE corners of a 40x40 galaxy map.
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Re: Combat Experience

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I know that some minor races have such experience increasing buildings as when the Andromeda sector applied for membership, I ended up building such a building as a special project.

Besides experience, there are special projects that are treated like very high defenses....like the Templar Fortifications. Similarly, some minor alien races have a superdefense. I believe it's the Mirimar that have a tidal wave defense used when a ground invasion is launched.

Don't be cocky and think you can just invade hapless defending minor aliens and that they will be pushovers.

Nora nora is a martial art on one minor race planet of very tall strong aliens. Many aliens are known to be advanced fighters and extremely strong.

See ideally if there were many components or attributes for the martial arts, then your troops and starships crews would rotate through several of these under your jurisdiction and then have an additive effect. That would be interesting like learning the arts of Budo. But in my opinion, it shouldn't keep rising and should be distinct from combat experience out of fairness.

If we understood the save game data and could mod the hex addresses, then a modder could assign troop experience and starship crew experience as a balancing feature for minor and major alien races.
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Re: Combat Experience

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For basic infantry, one would expect Terrans to be much weaker than Khaoran. But troops are not just levels of infantry but can be various mechanized infantry, tanks, and even squadrons of drones. So it's not like the same attributes would be for all troops,but rather a generalized value for offense, defense, and experience.

Honestly although we can't use the troop and ship editor in Android (only other operating systems), then you should look at them and whatever documentation to see how combat is resolved and what other races have in the way of specialized defenses, starbases, military academies, ship classes, and troop types.

It's terrible to win in orbit,then do a ground invasion,and get crushed because you were ignorant of what you were up against.
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Re: Combat Experience

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Be careful about mixed fleets of warships and troop transports. The latter have little or no weaponry, shields, and whatever hull types. This makes them very vulnerable to attack. Your strongest starships clear the sector, then you bring in your ground invasion. Carefully protect the troop transport with escorts...or they could easily get wiped out.

It's ugly but air support softens up the ground and breaks resistence. If you do that as the Khaoran, you take a negative morale hit as they are honorable and see that as underhanded. I bet the Cartare are the opposite.

In war, morale can win the day even when badly outnumbered and the commander puts fire in their spirit. The last thing you want to invoke is reduced morale.
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Re: Combat Experience

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You are trying to protect your ground troops so they mop up the insurgency and stay alive so they accumulate experience. Then you have battle hardened troops. Don't waste them by fighting against terrible odds. That is very sloppy, expensive, and immoral. It means you were careless with their trust and lives and badly miscalculated.

It is folly to think, "no problem, it'll work out...". Chances are it won't.
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Re: Combat Experience

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So my Level 5 Omega Troops which I have started making since about turn 620 or so have 1225 in experience as the internment camps which can be anywhere can train them. The newest recruits are green ones and have zero experience.

Some experience buildings are rare and only end up in capitols or the are in minor race sectors hence their capitols.
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